Wi-Fi, Cell Phone And 5G Radiation Is Sickening With Odette Wilkens

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What does 5G do to our health? What about cell phones and other radiation? And why is it that we cannot advocate for the removal of cell towers around us on health grounds? Attorney Odette Wilkens is the president, general counsel and co-founder of The National Call for Safe Technology. Today she offers studies about the negative impact of radiation all around us. And she also tells how she personally has been affected by 5G. Finally, she also offers suggestions for how to best protect yourself and your community from unwanted (and unwarranted) radiation.

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Within the below transcript the bolded text is Hilda Labrada Gore and the regular text is Odette Wilkens.

Atrial fibrillation, anxiety, clusters of tumors near cell towers. Are these issues the result of ultra-processed foods or something lurking in the environment? This is episode 540, and our guest today is Odette Wilkens. Odette is the president, general counsel, and co-founder of The National Call for Safe Technology. Odette talks to us about the threat of radiation, the biological effects of cell towers all around us.

She asks important questions like, do we need 5G in the first place, and whether or not we have a legal leg to stand on when it comes to the removal of these towers or even preventing their implementation in our neighborhood in the first place. As an attorney, Odette goes over federal bills and the role of the SEC in all of this. That’s the Federal Communications Commission. Listen closely to this episode for how to protect yourself and your family from unwanted radiation. Before we get into the conversation, I want to invite you to become a member of the Weston A. Foundation.

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Welcome to Wise Traditions, Odette.

Thank you very much for having me.

Odette, tell me about the time you were in Midtown in New York City. What did your little meter tell you about the radiation you were exposed to there?

I have to tell you that I was walking around, I was feeling great, and all of a sudden, on one of the blocks, I felt horrible. I said, “How come I’m feeling so horrible all of a sudden?” I took out my meter, and lo and behold, it was at over 500,000 microwatts per meter squared. I have a Safe and Sound Pro 2 by Safe Living Technologies, and I took it out and I said, “That’s why I was feeling so bad.” Ten is safe. Up to one zero is safe. Above that, I can withstand up to 1,000, but 500,000, half a million? I said, “I’ve got to get out of here.” I quickly went into the subway because there it cut the radiation so that it was only down to maybe 2,000 or 3000, but 500,000, no wonder I was feeling so horrible.

Just think of all the people living in that area all the time.

Not realizing that that’s why they feel horrible. Maybe they feel like it’s something about them. No, it isn’t. It’s environmental.

Alarming Amount Of Radiation From Cell Towers

This is so important to touch on because people are getting sick, and sometimes, in our Weston A. Price frame of mind, we think it always has to do with nutrition, but we’re going to focus on radiation. Talk to me a little bit about the clusters of illness that have come about as a result of towers that are too close to elementary schools or residences.

First of all, we found that there happen to be clusters coincidentally where there have been cell towers. For instance, in Ripon, California. There’s an elementary school there. There was a cell tower that was placed there a number of years ago. There were four children who came down with cancer, liver, kidney, and brain cancer. Four teachers developed breast cancer. One of those children who got brain cancer when he was ten years old recently passed away last August.

In Eagle, Idaho, there seems to be a cluster of atrial fibrillation from the 5G cell towers that have been placed there. They didn’t have this before the 5G cell towers, and now that they have the 5G cell towers, more and more people are complaining of atrial fibrillation. One of them is filing suit for accommodation under the Americans with Disabilities Act.

I understand because we had Daphna Takover on our show some time ago, and she said, “You can never fight 5G by saying that there’s a health concern related to the radiation being emitted by these towers. Is that true?

That is correct. According to the Telecommunications Act of 1996, there is a provision that talks about the fact that if telecom companies operating within the FSC wireless emission limits for human exposure that there can be no legal claim for any personal injuries or adverse health impacts. The fact is that wireless radiation is biologically active. Now, whether you’re affected by it or not, or you’re aware of it or not, is another issue. Certainly, your cells are aware of it, and it is biologically active. That’s already been found by government studies, a study that was also funded by industry and independent studies.

I want to veer into advocacy just for a second here because what you shared already is so alarming. Is there any tactic we can take to ask for cell towers to be taken down if we cannot say it has to do with health reasons?

Yes, you can do it under aesthetic impacts, and that’s under section 106 of the National Historic Preservation Act. It has an aesthetic impact, then yes. Particularly if it’s a historic structure or a historic district that is eligible or is on the National Register of Historic Places, you can stop a tower with that. People have also opposed it on the fact that their property values will go down because people don’t want to buy homes next to cell towers.

If you have your dream home and all of a sudden they build a cell tower right next to your home, that’s going to be problematic. There’s another cluster in Massachusetts in the Berkshires and Shacktown. Seventeen residents got sick when a forgy tower was placed down the block on their street. Seventeen got ill. Children were vomiting in their beds. They kept pails next to their beds in case they would vomit in the middle of the night. Many evacuated who could afford to evacuate. From what I understand, it was reported to me that one resident who remained died recently.

This is just mind-blowing that we can fight these based on aesthetics and property values going down. Appearance and money, but we don’t have a leg to stand on legally when it comes to health, which seems to me a little bit similar to the situation with vaccines, how the pharmaceutical companies have no liability. Thanks to the 1986 act, which was signed by Reagan. This is wild. Is there any chance that this may change this legal loophole?

There is now a campaign by the Children’s Health Defense called 704 No More. It has to do with section 704 of the Child Communications Act in order to give local communities more control over the placement of cell towers or the denial of cell towers. The industry is telling all the local governments that their hands are tied and they can place the towers wherever they want. That’s actually not true because the Telecommunications Act has put in what’s called cooperative federalism, where there’s a balance between the state government and the local government, and the federal government.

That they would act cooperatively. So far, they have not acted cooperatively. The FCC has preempted the discussion on the biological effects of cell towers and wireless radiation while also abandoning it. The FCC was in a lawsuit that was brought by Environmental Health Trust and Children’s Health Defense. In 2021, the federal district court of appeals in DC said that the FCC violated the Administrative Procedures Act because it did not look at the 11,000 pages of scientific studies showing harm within their limits, nor did it look at about 200 accounts of personal injury.

Back in 2013, the FCC opened up a docket, which means they just opened up a portal on the internet to receive comments on whether they should update their limits. At the time that the limits were set in 1996, we may have had some 3G, but we didn’t have 4G, 5G. We didn’t have the ubiquitous presence of cell towers and cell phones, and cellular devices. Those limits were set at a time when there were very few around in the world. Now it’s ubiquitous. The US Government Accountability Office told the FCC that it really needed to update its limits.

They needed to look at their limits and update them. In 2013, the FCC got a whole bunch of information, 11,000 pages of scientific studies showing harm within their limits. In 2019, they closed the docket and they said, “There’s nothing to see here. We’re not going to change the limits.” That’s when they got sued. In 2021, the federal appellate court in DC decided that the FCC acted arbitrarily and capriciously and that it had to go back and review its limits. It is now 2025, and the FCC has failed to comply with a court order.

What’s going to happen next?

What’s happening is, first of all, let me just tell you the landscape. The landscape is that if the Telecommunications Act says that you cannot bring a legal claim for any personal injury, so long as the telecom industry is operating within the FCC limits. On the other hand, the FCC is not updating its limits so that the limits are so high that people are getting injured, and you’re caught between a rock and a hard place. The thing we need to do is we need to compel the FCC to comply with the court order.

Now, there are a number of federal bills that are being introduced in Congress to increase the amount of spectrum authorization for the FCC. That means that they can give out more licenses for wireless radiation. We’re saying that should be conditioned on their compliance with the court order, that they should not be giving out any more wireless spectrum until they comply with the court order, and that they can attest to the complete safety. They really cannot because they have actual notice from all these studies.

High Risk Of Getting Cancer From Wireless Radiation

It’s not safe. Now the industry knows it’s not safe. The government knows it’s not safe. There have been lots of independent studies. The most recent one, and this is amazing, the World Health Organization just came out last month with a report stating that there is a high risk of cancer from wireless radiation. That has already made a lot of news, and that’s extremely noteworthy because the World Health Organization, back in 2011, stated that wireless radiation is classified as a class 2b possible carcinogen. Now they’re coming out with a study or a review of other studies saying that it is linked. It’s a high correlation, a high link to cancer.

It’s not just possible, it is linked.

It’s linked to cancer. I’m trying to find the quote for that so I can show you what they’ve said.

That’s big. I see what you’re saying.

Yes, it’s 5G safe. The World Health Organization, in April 2025, in their review concludes, there is evidence that RF, which is radio frequency, and EMF, which is electromagnetic frequency, exposure increases the incidence of cancer in experimental animals, with the certainty of evidence being stronger for malignant heart schwannomas and gliomas, which are brain cancers, brain tumors.

 

Women who put their cell phones in their bras found that when we were getting cancer in that area where they were putting the cell phones in their bras. There’s a new study that was published in the Fortune Journal of Health Sciences by Dr. Leonard Hardell and researcher Michael Kalberg, who reported an association between prostate cancer and exposure to radio frequency radiation emitted by cell phones. These are not toys. These can be potentially dangerous.

It’s amazing and groundbreaking. As you said, it’s eye-opening that those who have acknowledged this. In the meantime, people are like, “You who said that red meat or processed meat might be carcinogenic, possibly,” but this is stronger language than that. People are not taking this seriously when it comes to radiation. Why do you think that is, Odette?

That’s because the information isn’t getting out there. The telecommunications industry has a lot of influence, especially with the media. Just like the pharmaceutical industry influences the media, and they pay the advertising dollars. If your income depends on those advertising dollars, are you going to be publicizing information that’s contrary to what your advertisers want? No, it’s a question of economics.

The other thing is that wireless is nowhere near as good as wired connectivity. Wireless is great for mobility. When you’re moving around. A 4G tower can go anywhere from 9 to 20 miles. You can put it far away from people. Nobody gets hurt. Everybody gets connectivity. That’s great. That’s a responsible deployment of wireless telecommunications infrastructure. What’s not responsible is having them 5 feet or 10 feet outside of your bedroom or your child’s bedroom. That is important to keep in mind.

How Many Cell Towers Are In Your Area

Let’s talk about that because you mentioned earlier that these towers are much more ubiquitous now than they were, say, 10, 15 years ago. Talk to us about how many towers are in our urban and suburban settings, if you know any data on that.

There are lots of thousands in each of a lot of different settings. I’m in New York City, so we’ve got tens of thousands in very small locations. I would recommend that people look up under antenna search. There you can type your zip code or your location, and then it will show you, I believe, in a three-mile radius, the cell towers and antennas that are around and who owns those cell towers and antennas. You can see whether you’re living in an area that has lots of them or a few of them.

I have a quick story to tell. Years ago, my husband and I were looking around to move outside of the city. I remember we went to one house and we looked it up on Antenna Search and found there were, let’s say, six towers in the area. I was like, “That’s too many.” We got home, and I put in our current address at the time. It said 22. Odette, this was years ago. Now it’s hundreds. I feel like we’re all being targeted. Apart from moving, do you have any suggestions to mitigate the effects of this radiation?

Some companies provide shielding. There’s paint. You can use shielding paint, but that has to be grounded. You have to get a professional who knows what they’re doing because it can either make it better or it can make it worse.

The best thing to do is to be in an area that doesn’t have it, and sometimes you do have to move, which is terrible because people have bought their dream homes. They’ve invested a lot of money in their dream homes, and then they have to move. That’s what happened in Pittsfield. This was their dream home, and these people who got sick had to move to an inferior place. Now that should not be. I just want to say you were saying that 4G towers can help people communicate even if they are miles from the person who’s trying to get online. My question is, why are they so concentrated, then, if we can get connectivity with them further apart?

That is the question. Why do we need 5G? 5G is meant for machine-to-machine communications. It’s not meant for your cell phone or to stream video. You may be able to stream video a little bit faster than 4G or 4G LTE, but do you need it? Not really. From what I’ve been told is supposed to be the foundation for AI. Now, do we need that to make a phone call or to access the internet? I’m not so sure we need that. We can use 4G or 4G LTE, and 4G LTE has a little bit less span, from what I understand.

It may go up to maybe 4 miles. The thing is that it’s still not 10 feet outside your window. The big hype is thinking that having the next generation is going to be better. It’s like the iPhone. You have the iPhone 10, you have the iPhone 12, and the iPhone 15. Look at all the additional features you’re going to get. You’re spending more money. You may get more features, but you’re spending more money because that’s what they want you to do. What do you think is going to be any different for the telecom industry? 2G, 3G, 4G, 5G, isn’t that great?

Now they’re going to have to get a new phone, a whole new service plan. When you get to 60 and so on. Now with 5G, what they do is they advertise. This is correct. That it’s, it carries a tremendous amount of capacity of data. As opposed to, let’s say 4G being a four-lane highway, 5G is a ten-lane highway. It carries a lot of data, but the high-band 5G goes maybe 500 feet. That’s what I’ve heard from site developers who are putting these in.

That’s why they have to be so close together, because it’s like a relay station. You have to close together so that they can provide that coverage. Who needs 5G when you have 4G that can be miles and miles away, and you get similar service. What I was saying before is that wireless is for mobility. That’s when you’re traveling, you have an emergency, no one’s getting rid of their cell phones, and no one’s getting rid of the cell towers, but they should be placed responsibly.

No one should be getting rid of their cell phones. cell towers must be placed responsibly instead.

Wired connectivity, whether it’s cable or fiber, you don’t get the radiation. You don’t get the radiation, you get faster speeds. With fiber, you get symmetrical speeds. I believe it’s in Chattanooga, Tennessee, that they have symmetrical one-gig speeds for fiber. They’re going quantum because that entire city is wired for fiber. I think I believe it’s 600 square miles wired for fiber. They have the fastest internet in the United States and one of the fastest internet connections in the world.

Why Wired Connection Is Better Than Wireless

Hold on one second, because all the commercials make it seem that if it’s 5G, 6G, 7G, like we’re going to have the quickest downloads ever. You’re telling me that if we are connected through fiber, it’s more secure and more consistent, and quicker.

That’s correct. If there’s going to be telemedicine, I would not go with wireless. I would want a wired connection because if they’re doing surgery or anything like that, I don’t want a cellular outage to interrupt that surgery. When there was a cellular outage back in California, I believe it was sometime last year, and in other parts of the country, I’ve read that there were like 70,000 to maybe a couple of million people who lacked coverage and could not even make a 911 call.

While the advertisements are talking about bridging the digital divide, they’re creating another divide because they’re not supporting the copper wires. If you have a cellular outage, you need to make a 911 call, and they’ve just taken out your copper wire. You don’t have a landline anymore. How are you going to make a 911 call?

Hardly anybody has landlines anymore.

Some people do, but the industry is not supporting copper wires anymore. There’s no redundancy in the event that the cellular equipment goes down.

For example, I’m just thinking about the recent outages that there were in Europe. That affects communication as well, but there’s no redundancy. We’ll be out of touch literally, and important things like surgeries or critical communications of national security importance will be limited.

I’m sure the government has certain redundancies, but the consumers don’t have redundancies. We don’t have the ability to make a 911 call with our copper lines anymore. What I’m saying and you are saying that, yes, it is more secure. 5G is known to be insecure. It is less secure than 3G or 4G. That is what the former FCC chair and the former president of the CTIA, the big wireless trade association in the United States, said that 5G is less secure than its predecessors. He co-authored an article where he talks about the 5G cyber paradox, that the more efficient the architecture of 5G is, the less secure it is.

5G is actually insecure than its predecessors 3G and 4G.

If you see, 5G is a software-based system. It’s not hardware-based. If you’re working with 3G or 4G, that’s a hardware-based system. If there’s a security breach, you can quarantine the breach. If you have a software-based system, which is what 5G is, how do you quarantine the breach? You gain access to one node, then you gain access to the entire network because, for 5G to operate, you need to have lots of nodes. Lots and thousands and thousands more nodes. That already increases the surface area for hackers.

When you say nodes, do you mean like the little antennas that we see on the side of buildings and things like that?

Yes.

How The Government Deals With 5G

No wonder they’re so close together, as you said, especially concentrated in cities. I want to pivot for a second, Odette, and talk about President Trump’s order in February of 2025. He was establishing a commission to study chronic disease. Did he include the effects of electromagnetic radiation?

Absolutely. He made it into the executive order, establishing the MAHA Commission, Make America Healthy Again Commission. He specifically talked about studying the effects of chronic disease in children from electromagnetic radiation as a potential contributing cause to chronic disease in children. That’s very important because it has already been shown through various studies that children are getting ADHD. It affects their brain development, and they get neurological and cardiac disorders as well as cancer from electromagnetic radiation. This is a very big deal that the commission was established to study potential causes of chronic disease, including electromagnetic radiation.

That seems very encouraging. Yet at the same time, haven’t federal bills been passed that eliminate local control for the takeover of these telecommunications towers?

There have been some bills that were passed in the prior Congress, which allow cell towers to be put anywhere in our federal lands, anywhere in our federal forests, which is going to be a disaster because people go there to get away from technology. Especially soldiers who come back with post-traumatic stress syndrome, there’s a doctor who I know prescribes going to the parks to ground and to get away from technology.

 

This is not going to be possible. Other bills were passed last year that accelerate the satellite launches. That’s also a problem because after five years, the satellites come back down to Earth and they only have a five-year lifespan. All the debris that comes down onto the Earth, we don’t know just all the damage that it’s going to do to our vegetation, to our plants, to our forests, and to our food.

Odette, so are you encouraged or discouraged when you look at the landscape of what’s happening right now?

I have to say you have to be realistic about what’s going on to be able to do something about it. We have our eyes completely open as to what they’re doing. They already know that there are twenty federal bills that have been introduced in Congress since the beginning of the year to take away local control. It’s important for people to get in touch with their legislators to let them know that they don’t want these bills because the legislators are hearing from the telecom industry.

I cannot tell you, Hilda, how many people we’ve spoken to who say, “No one has come to us with this before. We’ve never heard about this before.” As we started in this interview, we were talking about the publicity and how come nobody has heard about it? It’s because the people who control the information are putting a lid on it. It’s our responsibility to communicate it to the legislators and to our policymakers to let them know, “No, we are the people that you need to be listening to, not the telecom industry.”

You can listen to the telecom industry, but you need to protect public safety. The only way that we’re going to be able to communicate is to really get them to know that we exist, get them to know that we are there, and to have a communication cycle with them and to give them the data. They don’t have the data. That is what we have to give. Even though in the MAHA Commission, you’re looking at electromagnetic radiation as a potential cause of chronic disease, these bills are accelerating wireless radiation.

The government may listen to the telecom industry, but they have to protect public safety.

There’s a disconnect, and we have to connect the dots for them and say, “You’re in conflict with the MAHA commission, and this is what you need to do.” If people want to get involved in this, they can contact me and we can have a meeting in our organization, and we can talk about how to approach the staff, how to approach the legislators, and the information we need to provide to them. It’s just a question of disseminating the appropriate information as opposed to the incorrect information that they’re getting from the telecom industry.

How Odette Lost Hearing In Her Right Ear

I can see that. What do you say, Odette, to the person’s “I’ve heard of your organization, Odette, but I feel like it’s all overblown. We don’t have any cancer where I live.” It’s probably because we’re eating fish with mercury or something anyway. It has nothing to do with the radiation. What do you say to the skeptics who say, “I don’t see it, so I don’t feel it, and I don’t think we’re going through all this. I’m all about more tech and more 5G and 6G and 7G?”

That’s a great question, because I’m a technology attorney. I’ve represented technology companies, financial companies, and entertainment companies, and I’ve done those technology agreements. I have been doing technology transactions for over twenty years. I was working at the law firm, and then I was working as assistant general counsel and also as senior director, and as contract attorney. I have to tell you that I didn’t think about this.

My friends were saying, “You have to be careful.” I went, “Yeah, okay, fine.” One day, I woke up in the middle of the night, and I lost hearing in my right ear permanently. I attribute that to a smart meter that has wireless radiation, and they usually communicate around 3:00 in the morning, around 4:00 or 4:30 is when I woke up with no hearing. I don’t have any hearing in my right ear. I was exposed to wireless radiation, and I got into tachycardia, super tachycardia, heart arrhythmia, and other injuries, and neurological injuries.

I thought, and I still didn’t know what it was. Until I started doing a deep dive into this, unrelated to my physical stuff, and I have no underlying conditions, but this was happening to me, and I’m a technology attorney, and I’ve represented some of the largest multinational corporations in the world, and I’m sure you will have heard of their names. I thought, “Technology is great. It’s supposed to help people.” I did a deep dive into 5G just because I’m interested in technology.

That’s when I found out all of the biological effects that wireless radiation has. I said, “Oh my God.” I went down a path. I had to go through therapy to help me with the injuries that I received. I’m fine now, but now I know what happened and I know how to remedy it. My doctor didn’t know how to remedy it. He didn’t know what I had. I didn’t know what I had.

Nobody knew what I had. I had to do it by trial and error, figuring out how to make myself better. I have a very nutritious diet. It has nothing to do with nutrition. Being in having a nutritious diet helps you overcome things more quickly. If you’re very healthy, on a healthy diet, that’s great. If you are hit with wireless radiation, it doesn’t matter what your diet is, you will get injured. In any event, I found the way out.

As a result of that, I know when people are telling me that they’re experiencing this, what they might need to do. For instance, turn off your Wi-Fi at night. Do not work with your Wi-Fi at your desk because you are hit, you’re being hit with millions of microwatts per meter squared, millions of units of wireless radiation. I make sure that I am away from all of these things. I also have a meter that I use. It’s from Safe Living Technologies and it’s called a Safe and Sound Pro II.

I think I have one of those.

That tells me if I am walking in an area and I’m not feeling so hot, and I’m thinking, “God, am I coming down with the flu or is it something in the environment?” I take out my meter, and it’s reading super high. I have to get out of there. I try to get out as quickly as possible. One time I didn’t get out quickly enough, and I got into a tachycardia event, and I had to go to the emergency room. I’ve already been hospitalized twice because of this and have gone to the emergency room four times.

Biological Effects Of Wireless Radiation

This is crazy. As we start to wrap up, I do want to ask you, can you list some of the biological effects and how these might appear symptomatically on an individual?

It’s a headache, tinnitus, disorientation, and chronic fatigue. Wireless radiation will make you very tired. I would have to go to sleep at 5:00 in the afternoon because I couldn’t even think anymore until I figured out how to alleviate that. Nausea, vomiting, cardiac issues, arrhythmia, tachycardia, brain disorders, anxiety, depression. It is such a huge constellation of symptoms that unless you know that you are aware of the amount of wireless radiation that you’re being exposed to, you may not know that that may be the cause of why you’re not feeling well, and also cancer.

Odette’s Tips To Improve Your Health

Some of these things people might think, “I’ve been too long on my computer, of course I have a headache.” They’re not realizing it’s related to the radiation exposure. Lots for people to consider. Odette, I’m going to put in the show notes, obviously in the description, where people can find you, how they can get started with some activism. I’m so grateful that you’re bringing awareness to this issue. I do want to ask you the question I love to pose at the end here now, as the reader may be wondering if they can do one thing to improve their health that may be related to what we’ve been discussing or not. If they could just do one thing to improve their health, what would you recommend that they do, Odette?

When you’re using your cell phone, do not hold it. Put it on the desk. Use your speakerphone to speak. Never hold it to your head because it was never tested for safety against the head. It was tested for safety away from the head. People use it against the head. That is not safe. Do that with your phone. Put your phone on airplane mode when you are not using it or you’re not expecting it. Do not put it in your pants pocket.

It affects your sperm and sperm motility. Men have gotten, from what I’ve heard, colon cancer, and there’s also an incidence of testicular cancer that I’ve heard about. Do not put it in your bra because women have gotten breast cancer in the shape and location where they put their cell phone. Turn off your wifi at night. Do not sit with your wifi at your workstation. Also, if you need to have your wired, it’s best to have a wired connection, a wired Ethernet connection. You do not need wireless at home.

Wired is for stationary use, and wireless is for mobility. It should not be for fixed use. If you definitely need your wifi, however, you can buy a signal tamer, which is a netting that you can put over the wifi tower, and it will reduce the radiation by 90% and will not affect your ability to use your Wi-Fi. That’s how much power they emit. I know you asked me for one thing, but these are all mitigation things that people can use together.

 

I’m so thankful that you brought them all up. These are very practical tips that I think will help every listener. Thank you so much for your time, Odette. On behalf of the Weston A. Price Foundation, it has been a pleasure.

Thank you.

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Our guest was Odette Wilkens. Check out her websites, The National Call and Wired Broadband, to learn more. Now for a recent review from Apple Podcasts. A Washington, DC girl said this, “Love this podcast. Keep up the great work. I love it and your professionalism, and your guests.” That really means a lot, Washington, DC girl, seriously. I’m sending you a lot of love in return. If you want to send us love, please do.

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About Odette Wilkens

Odette Wilkens, a technology transactional attorney for over 20 years, advocates for the safe installation of communications infrastructure – enabling access to phone and Internet coverage. After seeing that many people across the country were being injured by wireless radiation from cell towers, smart meters and other wireless devices, she co-founded with Virginians for Safe Technology a national coalition called The National Call for Safe Technology where she is Chair & General Counsel. She also co-founded Wired Broadband, Inc., a non-profit based in NYC to educate and advocate for safe communications infrastructure, where she is also President & General Counsel. There’s a safe way of deploying telecom services and an unsafe way; we’re doing it the unsafe way. Over 25 submissions have been made to federal agencies (e.g., FCC, HHS, HUD, NIST DOJ, NTIA) advocating for safety and representing the interests of those already disabled by wireless radiation. Over 13 submissions have been made to congressional committees advocating for the preservation of local control against 20 federal bills introduced so far in 2025 that would take away local control on placing cell towers next to homes and schools.

In 2024, Odette also served on the Communications Equity & Diversity Council at the Federal Communications Commission on bridging the digital divide for those without access to broadband. Odette graduated from Brooklyn Law School, and holds an MBA in Finance from Stern at New York University, and B.A. from Barnard College affiliated with Columbia University.

 

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